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Čudežen deček.
Zanimivo, da je ohranil enake geste od otroštva kot 11-letni deček pa do konca športne karijere. Neverjetno. _________________ We swim because we are too sexy for a sport that requires clothing!
Swimmers are like tea-bags:
you don't know how strong they are
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Pridružen/-a: 08.07. 2012, 17:47 Prispevkov: 183 Kraj: Radovljica
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BREAKING: HE'S BACK! MICHAEL PHELPS RE-ENTERS USADA TESTING POOL
Published:November 14, 2013
Courtesy of: USADA
MINNEAPOLIS, Minnesota, November 14. IN a move that has been coming for quite some time, Michael Phelps has re-entered the testing pool at USADA and has been tested twice in the last quarter by the organization according to the latest release of stats today.
Swimming World first got wind of the fact he was back in the testing pool earlier today when Phelps surprised everyone in attendance by taking a dip in the warmup pool at the Arena Grand Prix in Minneapolis this afternoon, and has been waiting for proof with the release of quarterly stats that were expected to drop.
Just minutes ago, USADA updated its website with the proof that Phelps more than made the November 6 mythical deadline to comeback and give the sport another go by actually having entered within the last quarter. Enough to induce a pair of tests.
As first broken by former Morning Swim Show host Peter Busch and rumored by Casey Barett of CapandGoggles.com back in May, Phelps has been taking all of the steps necessary for the Greatest of All Time to get back in the water.
During the summer, he had a visit to Colorado Springs aborted once it became public, but has since been putting in work at the North Baltimore Aquatic Club. Additionally, he's been backing off most of his early comments saying he was never coming back. Now, he took the latest step, which is to be back in the drug testing pool.
That means he'll have the chance to make a National Team next summer to prepare for the final two years before the 2016 Rio Olympics, where he can add to his already gaudy numbers.
He has the most Olympic medals of all time across any sports with 22, including 18 gold, two silver and two bronze. He also has an astonishing 26 world long course titles to his name as well as 13 Pan Pacific Championship crowns. Once Phelps makes the Pan Pacs team, look for that last tally to rise significantly in 2014.
The best part about Phelps being back in the testing pool is that all the "Will He or Won't He" talk will now transition to "How Good Can He Still Be?" _________________ ŽIGA |
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Phelps je ponovno vstopil v ameriški protidopinški program (USADA). Testirali so ga 2x v obdobju 30. junij-30. september 2013.
Za nastopati na Natonals meseca avgusta, ki so kot neke vrste Trials za na SP 2015, zadnji termin je bil 8. november. Phelps je bil terminsko občutno zgoden.
Tukaj sta dve možnosti, ali Phleps vleče cel svet za nos, ali pa se res vrača. Ta druga možnost, pa nima smisla zanikat, je sedaj zelo verjetna. |
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Osebno sem precej skeptičen, glede vrnitev plavalcev, ko se enkrat odločijo zaključiti športno kariero. Recimo en lep primer je Thorpe.
Upam, da je Michael povsem prepričan v to kar počne, in da se ne odloči za vrnitev, le zaradi tega, ker ga pritiskajo sponzorji. _________________ "Hack the lack that lacks the hack" |
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Tukaj še nekaj več informacij. Preberite !!!
Nov 15, 3:47 AM EST
PHELPS BACK IN DRUG TESTING, KEEPING OPTIONS OPEN
Michael Phelps still can't bring himself to utter the word "comeback."
Yet all signs point to the world's greatest swimmer returning to the pool for the 2016 Rio Olympics.
In the strongest signal yet that his retirement won't last much longer, Phelps has rejoined the U.S. drug testing program - a necessary step for any athlete hoping to compete in an Olympic sport.
"I have no idea what's going to happen," Phelps told The Associated Press on Thursday in an exclusive telephone interview from Minneapolis, where he was attending an Arena Grand Prix meet and even got in some impromptu training in the diving well. "If I really do start getting excited and wanting to do it, I can make that choice. If not, at least it's something we can say we prepared for."
Phelps said he's merely giving himself the option of competing again and stressed that "nothing is set in stone." But the doping program is a major inconvenience, requiring him to be available for random testing and keep officials apprised of his whereabouts.
"It is a challenging thing to do," he said. "We are covering all the bases just in case."
Phelps is the winningest and most decorated athlete in Olympic history. He captured 18 gold medals and 22 medals overall at the last three Summer Games, shattering the previous marks. He is best known for breaking Mark Spitz's record for a single Olympics by winning eight gold medals at Beijing in 2008.
The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency said Phelps was among the athletes who underwent doping tests in the third quarter, the period ending Sept. 30. He was tested twice.
His longtime coach and close friend, Bob Bowman, said Phelps actually re-entered the doping program near the end of the second quarter, but he wasn't tested and therefore wasn't listed in that USADA report. He would be eligible to compete again in March, according to Bowman.
"I just think he's in a place where he's feeling good about swimming," Bowman said. "If he chooses to compete, he's got some time. I like having the ability to do it. To be perfectly honest, he's not anywhere near being able to compete in a meet or anything like that. We're just getting started on improving his fitness. We'll see where that goes."
Phelps has been training with Bowman's team at the North Baltimore Aquatic Club. Each week, he's working a couple of days in the pool, a couple of days in the weight room, and one or two days on his core training. He has lost about 15 pounds and is back in the low 190s, not far off his competition weight.
"If I decide to keep going and swim again, then I'll compete," he said. "If I don't," he added, letting out a big laugh, "I guess I'll re-retire. Just don't compare me to Brett Favre."
By subjecting himself to drug testing, the 28-year-old Phelps has given himself plenty of time to go through an entire season before the next major meet, the 2015 world championships in Russia, an important steppingstone to the Rio Games the following summer. FINA, the world governing body for swimming, requires an athlete to be tested for at least nine months before taking part in sanctioned events.
"There's no grand scheme," Bowman said. "It just sort of makes sense that he can make some choices if he wants to."
Phelps attended the world championships in Barcelona this past summer, but he seemed even more pumped about being on hand for one of the more mundane events that fall between the Olympic years.
"Just being around this is exciting for me," he said from Minneapolis. "It really has been a part of my life ever since I was a kid."
Phelps' return would surely be welcomed by the entire sport and even those who only follow swimming during the Olympics.
It was the talk of the deck Thursday.
"I think it would be great for the sport," said Conor Dwyer, a relay gold medalist at the London Games who trains with Phelps at North Baltimore. "He elevated it so much before that I think it can only get bigger with him in it. Obviously he's the greatest swimmer of all time - doubled everyone's medal counts - so to have him on your relay only helps the USA win more golds."
Phelps' appeal goes far beyond the pool deck. His recognition factor has often matched athletes from far more prominent sports, such as NBA star LeBron James, a truly impressive accomplishment for a swimmer.
Phelps retired after winning six more medals at last summer's London Olympics, adamant that all his goals were met and he had no desire to still be swimming in his 30s. He will be 31 by the time of the opening ceremony for the Rio Games - not that old, really, for today's elite swimmers. One of his top rivals, Ryan Lochte, is a year older and has every intention of competing through the next Olympics.
If there is a comeback, Phelps wouldn't be doing it for the money, having earned tens of millions of dollars in endorsements during his career. He remains a marketable name, even in retirement, though his endorsement potential certainly goes up if he's in the water.
More likely, this is another case of an athlete who simply missed the thrill of competition and is still young enough to do something about it, assuming he can find the motivation to endure Bowman's grueling regimen for nearly three more years.
"There are a lot of things that really excite me ... that get me motivated," Phelps said. "But I swam for 20 years. That's something that's going to be very, very hard to top." _________________ PK ILIRIJA
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butterfly je napisal/a: | Phelps je ponovno vstopil v ameriški protidopinški program (USADA). Testirali so ga 2x v obdobju 30. junij-30. september 2013.
Za nastopati na Natonals meseca avgusta, ki so kot neke vrste Trials za na SP 2015, zadnji termin je bil 8. november. Phelps je bil terminsko občutno zgoden.
Tukaj sta dve možnosti, ali Phleps vleče cel svet za nos, ali pa se res vrača. Ta druga možnost, pa nima smisla zanikat, je sedaj zelo verjetna. |
Zmotila sem se, pa noben me ni popravil. Zadnji termin je bil 6 november, in ne 8. november. |
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Master78 že čisto domači
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Jaz mislim, da Phelps ni sprejel poraza na 200 m delfin v Londonu, ker to je njegova tekma. Če se on loti priprav na kakšen drugačen način, pa da se osredotoči le na dve-tri tekme (zagotovo bo ena od teh 200 m delfin), pol lahko doseže vrhunske rezultate v Riu. _________________ A mathematician, like a painter or poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas.
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Pridružen/-a: 21.02. 2013, 21:19 Prispevkov: 44 Kraj: MB
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butterfly je napisal/a: | Phelps je ponovno vstopil v ameriški protidopinški program (USADA). Testirali so ga 2x v obdobju 30. junij-30. september 2013.
Za nastopati na Natonals meseca avgusta, ki so kot neke vrste Trials za na SP 2015, zadnji termin je bil 8. november. Phelps je bil terminsko občutno zgoden.
Tukaj sta dve možnosti, ali Phleps vleče cel svet za nos, ali pa se res vrača. Ta druga možnost, pa nima smisla zanikat, je sedaj zelo verjetna. |
Pa kje je tukaj smisel ? Zakaj bi se moral vrnit ? Ne razumem.
On je zmagal vse, in še več. |
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Pridružen/-a: 18.05. 2012, 19:47 Prispevkov: 747
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Phelps je znova vstopil v ameriški protidopinški program, in to že v drugem trimesečju leta 2013. To pomeni, da mora pravočasno vnašat in posodabljat informacije v programu posredovanja lokacij, s čimer omogoča USADI uspešno izvajanje nenapovedanih testiranj izven tekmovanj.
Nato v tretjem trimesečju, med 1. julijem in 30. septembrom, je bil Phleps testiran dvakrat.
Teoretično bi lahko Phelps nastopal na kakšnem plavalnem mitingu že meseca marca leta 2014, je dejal Bowman za Associated Press.
Kaj Phelps ima res namen se vrniti v agonizem in kaj je doslej počel v bazenu ?
Če začnemo pri drugemu vprašanju, je Bowman dejal, da Phelps ima v povprečju dva treninga na teden v bazenu dober mesec, in ravno toliko v fitnesu, pa še nekaj za mišični tonus na splošno.
Dejansko to kar počne sedaj, je še vedno zelo, zelo malo, tako da je zelooo daleč od tiste minimalne telesne pripravljenosti za nastopati na bilo katerem mitingu. Recimo, da je do sedaj Michael želel izgubiti nekaj kilogramov, ki jih je pridobil v preteklem letu, ko je potoval, igral golf in lenaril.
Kar se pa tiče prvega vprašanja, dejstvo je, da njegov vstop v ameriški protidopinški program, je en pomemben signal v prid vrnitvi v agonizem. Sam Bowman je dejal, da ni še nič odločeno, in da je odvisno od tega, če se bo kaj premaknilo in sprožlo v notranjosti Phelpsa, pa do katere mere: bo Phelps res začutil tisto voljo in željo za občutno povečati treninge po količini in to zelo, pa se podati znova v težko rutino na katero je vezan plavalec kot profesionalec, in to tista rutina, ki je bila pri njemu tako zelo prisotna, ko so se približevale OI v Londonu 2012, da je zgledalo , da mu je, kar precej odvratno vse skupaj.
Torej bomo vidli: vse je možno, in že to je precej odmevno, da je sedaj vse možno, saj Phelps je že v letu poprej od Londona, bil videti zelo, zelo prepričan, da se bo dokončno poslovil od agonizma po olimpijskih igrah v Londonu.
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Pridružen/-a: 15.06. 2013, 12:55 Prispevkov: 8
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Če prav razumem je Phelps znova vstopil v ameriški protidopinški program, za si pustiti vrata odprta v tem trenutku ... Nevem kaj naj si mislim, vendar sem mnenja, da je njegova morebitna vrnitev zelo odvisna od njegove volje in da sponzorji niso ključen odločilen razlog.
Jaz upam, da Phelps ne bo naredil napake, tako kot jo je naredil Thorpe, in preden se znova poda v igro, če se bo podal, da je res popolnoma prepričan (101%), da je pripravljen prenesti in se spopasti z agonizmom. |
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Pridružen/-a: 18.05. 2012, 19:47 Prispevkov: 747
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aure je napisal/a: | Če prav razumem je Phelps znova vstopil v ameriški protidopinški program, za si pustiti vrata odprta v tem trenutku ... Nevem kaj naj si mislim, vendar sem mnenja, da je njegova morebitna vrnitev zelo odvisna od njegove volje in da sponzorji niso ključen odločilen razlog.
Jaz upam, da Phelps ne bo naredil napake, tako kot jo je naredil Thorpe, in preden se znova poda v igro, če se bo podal, da je res popolnoma prepričan (101%), da je pripravljen prenesti in se spopasti z agonizmom. |
Točno tako. On je vstopil v ameriški protidopinški program, ker to je obvezen pogoj, da ima pol plavalec možnost nastopati na Nationals meseca avgusta, ki za običajno bizarnost ZDA, se preverja približno na vsake 4 leta, pa se sestavlja selekcijo, eno leto pred svetovnim prvenstvom 2015, ki bo odskočna deska za na olimpijske igre Rio.
Šele, ko bo in če bo Phelps povečal treninge po količini, kar pomeni, da bo treniral za res, lahko rečemo, da se resnično namerava vrniti .
Kakorkoli že, kot jaz poznam Phelpsa odkar sem ga začela slediti, menim, da se ne bo NIKOLI neprepričljivo vrnil tako kot se je Thorpe.
Če se bo odločil vrniti, bo to storil, ker misli resno, da je sposoben tekmovati na vrhunski ravni, in vse je odvisno od motivacije v primeru, da jo bo znova našel.
Nevem, če se spomnite, jaz sem bila mnenja, da je hudo napačen njegov spored tekem, ki je bil določen za London 2012, potem zagotovo tudi priprave niso šle popolnoma v pravo smer, ker tisti spored je bil preveč zahteven, in še posebej ponovno dodana tekma na 400 m mešano, je poudarila nasičenost tekem v bazenu za Phelpsa.
In ne glede na njegove izjave, po mojem tančica nezadovoljstva na zadnjih olimpijskih igrah je ostala v Phelpsu.
Potem, seveda, morda malo pogreša tekmovalni adrenalin, kljub temu, da je izjavil, da ga osrečujejo potovanja, pa igranje golfa kjerkoli in da lahko počne to kar želi.
Človek (vsak človek) na koncu ni nikoli popolnoma zadovoljen in vedno nekaj obžaluje ...
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Pridružen/-a: 15.06. 2013, 12:55 Prispevkov: 8
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Za razliko od Thorpa, Phelps ima prednost, ker se lahko pomiri na treningu z Agnelom in Dwyerjem. Mislim, da boljših pogojev ne moreš imet za se testirat in se odločit. |
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Pridružen/-a: 18.05. 2012, 19:47 Prispevkov: 747
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aure je napisal/a: | Za razliko od Thorpa, Phelps ima prednost, ker se lahko pomiri na treningu z Agnelom in Dwyerjem. Mislim, da boljših pogojev ne moreš imet za se testirat in se odločit. |
Mislim, da če se bo Phelps res odločil, da se testira z Agnelom in Dwyerjem, pol bi se že odločil za vrnitev v agonistični ambient.
V bistvu te dve situaciji (Phelps in Thorpe) sta zelo različni.
1) Phelps je bil daleč od bazena malo več kot leto, medtem ko je Thorpe zapustil agonizem za več let, preden so uradno objavili in potrdili, da se vrača.
2) Phelps ni pridobil odvečno težo v takšni meri kot Thorpe in njegovo telo po naravi ni takšen fizični mamut kot od Iana, in zato se lažje povrne v formo.
3) Pravi razlogi za vrnitev od Thorpa nikoli niso bili povsem jasni, in mnogi so govorili o finančnih težavah. Pri Phelpsu ne bi smelo biti finančnih težav.
4) Glih zaradi nedavnega odmevnega primera od Thorpa, Phelps je to ožigosal, nizka prepričljivost pri vrnitvi. Kaj se spomnete, ko je Thorpe priznal že pred kvalifikacijskim ciklusom, da ima res malo možnosti, za dobiti olimpijsko vozovnico tudi za štafete ? Če se bo Phelps odločil, da se vrne, bo to storil z resno namero, in z občutno drugačnim pristopom.
5) Tisti ta pravi Thorpe je bil specializiran na 200/400 prosto, in ko se je vrnil, je iskal alternativne rešitve kot npr na 100 m prosto, pa na delfin, ampak za Thorpa ni bilo nobenih pravih alternativ glede na tekme, ki je plaval prej (200/400 prosto), vendar slednje tehnike so predpostavljale velike obremenitve na treningih in svežino, kar Thorpe ni mogel zagotoviti.
Phelps ima eno tekmo v rezervi za lovit normo in to je 100 m delfin, in če bi želel biti ambiciozen in dodati še eno posamezno tekmo, možnosti izbire so: ali ostane v hitrosti (100 m prosto ali 100 m hrbtno), ali se specializirati na delfin, pa doda še 200, ali pridobiti nazaj in natrenirati 200 mešano.
Vsaj tekma na 100 m delfin je za Phelpsa ena velika možnost, če najde v sebi, vsaj malo motivov, da bi se znova začel pripravljati za slednjo tekmo. Leta 2010, ko je Phelps treniral res malo, je odplaval 50.65 na 100 m delfin na Nationals (pripravljen je bil res slabo, in njegov znan beg v Las Vegas teden prej) kjer je kot običajno dal skozi število tekem.
Leta 2014 bo imel Phelps 4 leta več OK, ampak če si bo se res želel vrniti, pol zagotovo ne bo imel manj volje kot v letu 2010, in še posebej, končno se bo lahko osredotočil na malo tekem po številu (ena od tekem bo 100 m delfin), in ne kot običajno na 4 ali 5 tekem. |
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Pridružen/-a: 15.06. 2013, 12:55 Prispevkov: 8
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Se popolnoma strinjam s tabo. Res je.
Po tvojem se bo Phelps vrnil v agonizem ? Kaj praviš ?
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Pridružen/-a: 18.05. 2012, 19:47 Prispevkov: 747
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To je vprašanje za milijon dolarjev. Hehe ...
Nevem, če se bo vrnil, pojma nimam. Težko reč.
On je štiriletni ciklus od Pekinga do Londona dal zelo težko čez, ker je imel pomanjkanje motivacije, kar je normalno po temu kar je dosegel v Pekingu. Pa poln kufer je imel treningov, priprav, bazena, klora, pa tiste vsakdanje težke rutine.
Skratka vsega je imel preko glave in vse skupaj mu je postalo odvratno.
Zgledal je popolnoma prepričan, da se na olimpijskih igrah v Londonu, dokončno poslavlja od agonizma, ker je imel željo početi druge stvari kot npr potovati, videti svet in ne samo hotele in bazene.
In zdaj pred kratkim sem prebrala, da je Phelps znova vstopil v ameriški protidopinški program. Moram priznat, da me je to zelo presenetilo. Osebno nevem, kaj naj si mislim. Le čas nam bo povedal, če ga bomo vidli na štartnih blokih na OI v Riu 2016, ali ne.
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Pridružen/-a: 27.02. 2013, 15:17 Prispevkov: 5
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Phelps se bo vrnil, ker ga grize poraz na 200 m delfin v Londonu. In po mojem ga zadeva še bolj jezi, ker to je njegova tekma.
On bo šel na OI v Rio, plaval bo zagotovo na 200 m delfin, in ali na 200 m mešano, ali na 100 m delfin, in obe tekmi bo zmagal.
Pol bo pa res, dokončno tekmovalnim bazenom, pomahal v slovo.
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